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agonize, organize! for joining us here in "the war room," tune in to our [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: welcome do "the young turks." do you know who we have on the show? mark hamill, known as luke skywalker. i'll do that all week long. and mitt romney flip flops on abortion, and another record-breaking flip flop. >> that would become part of my agenda. hopefully reverse roe v. wade and law regarding abortion. >> cenk: okay, also the world's biggest hypocrite on abortion, shockingly it's the tea party guy. and then paul ryan, in an
interview it gets con contentious. >> those are your words, not mine. >> thank you very much, sir. >> that was kind of strange. >> cenk: i'm also going to tell you the secret strategy that the republicans have before debates. it's called preemptive strike. i'll tell you exactly how to it works. and then this guy that i'm about to show you suchen answer believable jerk. he said he's going fire his employees if obama is reelected. >> i'm the owner of the largest time share company in the world. >> cenk: it only gets worse from there. elbow of the day later. and then of course, did i mention that we have mark hamill? go time.
[ ♪ music ♪ ] >> i'm in favor of pro-life policy. >> i will preserve and protect a woman's right. >> the justices of the supreme court reverse roe v. wade. >> a woman should be able to choose whether or not she wants an abortion. >> mitt romney is changing his plan. >> i'm pro-choice. >> you want this massachusetts moderate who won't level with you to run against barack obama. >> where have you been, boy i've missed you all these past years. >> to call romney a liar is a strategy. >> the strategy is to basically call us liars. >> they've reduced the other side liars. >> are you calling mitt romney a liar. >> yes. you seemed shock by it, the answer is yes. >> cenk: all right, now before we get to mitt romney let's start with a gentleman by the name of scott desjalais.
he has 100% score to national right to life. he's 100% pro-life. he has said himself i'm a consistent supporter of pro-life values. human life is sacred and taxpayer funding of abortion is counter to the values that a great many tennesseans hold. he's definitely pro-life, right? here's what is happening. turns out he had a mistress. turns out he was a serial adulter. he got divorced from his wife, and now we find out there were recorded phone calls where he tells his mistress, you better get an abortion, you better do it right away. this idiot recorded himself. that's how we found out.
you told me you'd have an abortion, now we're getting too far along without one. tea party republican pro-life, what are you doing! get the abortion, and get it right away! he continues if we need to go to atlanta or whatever to get this solved, and to get it over with so we can get on with our lives, then let's do it. wait a main, i thought you were pro-life, what happened? what is this getting on with our lives? what about the life of the fetus that you think and you say is so sacred? unless of course you screwed up and your mistress got pregnant, and now you have to terminate it. right? i bring this guy up because this is the essence of the republican party. these guys don't mean a word of what they say. then get a load of this scum bag. the woman said you told me you would have time to go with me and everything. he said, i if i could i would
didn't i? i'll try to find the time. now speaking of hypocrites on abortion now remember mitt romney february of this year all the way back then. mr. pro-life. >> i'm in favor of pro-life policy, the legislation that relates to abortion is something which is going to have to be approved by the supreme court and the key decisions i'll take as president will be number one stopping funding for planned parenthood reinstituting the mexico city policy which says our funds cannot be used for abortion around the world and hopefully reverse roe v. wade and return to the states the authority for making law with regards to abortion. >> cenk: couldn't be clear mr. 100%. i'm going to defund planned parenthood, turn around roe v.
wade and it will be made illegal. all of a sudden he has to be a centrist. get allowed of what he tells the "des moines register." >> there is no legislation regarding abortion that i'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda. >> cenk: there is nothing that would be become part of your agenda? how about making abortion illegal, but did you see what the weasel did? there is no particular legislation necessarily. the mexico thing is an executive order where i defund all the groups working throughout the world on this, if they're for abortion i'll defund it. but it's not a particular legislation. and if you put guys on the supreme court, it's not legislation. you weasel. everybody gets it, mitt. look this is a typical mitt romney speak. >> but i stand by what i said, whatever it was. >> cenk: mitt romney in a nutshell. this guy is unreal. so clinton is deciding, you know
what, i'm not going to let him get away with this. bill clinton in nevada, listen to what he is saying. >> i thought--i thought--wow. here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy i missed you all these years. >> cenk: that might have been my favorite line of the campaign. where you been, boy. that's an open hand slap, boy what are you going to do about it? you remember 'ol mitt romney called moderate mitt, that's what bill clinton called him. when he was running for governor in massachusetts, first as governor and then did it again with ted kennedy when running for senate. me? i'm pro-choice. listen to this guy. >> i will preserve and protect a woman's right to choose, a woman's right to choose for a woman to make that choice herself. a woman should have the right to make her own choices whether or not she should have an abortion.
i will preserve and protect a woman's right to choose. i do not take the position of a pro-life candidate. i'm in favor of preserving and protecting a woman's right to choose. >> i never called myself pro-choice. i never used the pro-choice. i didn't feel i was pro-choice. >> cenk: how can anybody look at this guy and think that's my man. that's a man of principle! have you ever seen a bigger liar as a politician? that's saying a lot because a lot of politicians are liars. which one is it, mitt, i can't quite tell. did you meet what you said about pro-choice or pro-life. >> the words that came out were not what i meant. >> cenk: oh, i see okay. now of course spokesperson andrea saul comes out and says, no no, mitt romney is proudly pro-life and he will be a pro-life president. mitt which one is it? did you mean it or didn't you mean it? >> words that came out were not what i meant but i stand by
what i said whatever it was. >> cenk: and ted kennedy when running against him in a debate said it best on this issue. watch. >> on the question of the choice issue, i have supported the roe v. wade. i am pro-choice. my opponent it multiple-choice. >> cenk: perfect. multiple-choice mitt. now, for a flip flop this epic, who would you bring in? [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: michael, did he bring in a gold medal is that the best flip flop that he ever made. >> i loved watching you in that last segment. that's what mitt romney has done telling everybody what he has done in tennessee, and that race is so important and then eric stewart who the democrats should flow throw money behind him.
there is so much hypocrisy. seeing what mitt romney has done. you can sit and call him a liar. but that's not what you do in a debate. you call him a liar, say why he is is a liar and then joe biden should say what he would do differently. to say he's flip flopping and calling him a liar that is not debating. >> cenk: do you have any sense of an idea--i don't know if anybody in the country does who is the real mitt romney. i'm not sure if mitt romney is the real mitt romney. >> no, i don't. i think the real mitt romney is an opportunist. a guy who is benignly ambitious and entitled. i think he'll do and say anything he wants to be president. someone said a long time ago mitt you're going to be president. in the mid election he was trying to go back to what he was what he was when he was governor
which is probably not what he was when he was born. >> cenk: i think the answer lies who is anyone. we look at principle and policy positions when that is not who mitt is. he doesn't care about those things. what mitt is, he's an opportunist and he's a politician to the core. he doesn't give a damn what the position is, etc. i want to give you one more thing, president obama sat down for his first tv interview after the debate. it's with diane sawyer. we have this clip. >> governor romney is saying there is no abortion legislation that is part of his agenda. your campaign has called that a lie. >> obama: well look, diane this is another example of governor romney hiding on a position he has been campaigning for a year half. >> is it a lie? >> obama: i think his position when it comes to women's rights to control their own healthcare decisions, you know, what he has been saying is exactly what he
believes. he thinks that it is appropriate for politicians to inject themselves in those decisions. >> cenk: get to it, already. get to it, jay yeah, who can believe this-- >> barack obama. >> cenk: yeah, yeah, i hope he gets better than that. thank you, michael. when we come back, ryan gets into a contentious interview. >> you do that with a big tax cuts. >> those are your words not mine. >> thank you very much sir. >> yes. >> that was kind of strange. >> cenk: now i'll break that down and tell you the strategy that they have for these debates. it's really interesting. then later one mom from a navy seal gets tired of mitt romney talking about his son and she puts an end to it. >> imagine how shocked i was to learn that he was one of the two navy--former navy seals killed in
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>> cenk: the republicans on fox news channel have this strategy that they do before a debate. it's called the preemptive strike. the republicans are familiar with that. this month they're doing it to martha radis. how are they doing it? oh she's bias, she likes obama. a daily caller put out an article. president obama was guest of the 1991 wedding of abc senior foreign correspondent of martha radis. now the obama camp and "abc
news" said wait a minute, president obama attended the wedding of someone who was republican. and here is a timeline. 1991, the divorce was 1997--15 years ago--and he became chairman of the sec in 2029, 2009, . and in the article, they say what a nut job. they is it this to president obama right before the debate. and they said, barack obama being an angry black man. >> obama: what is happening in new orleans? where's your dollar?
where is your stratford act money? >> cenk: he wasn't an angry black man. everybody had seen that tape. but that wasn't the point. the point was to try to get president obama not to attack during the debate, and boy that worked beautifully. and with martha radis they don't think she's bias. the point is i better be easy on paul ryan otherwise they'll call me bias. then the third prong to the strategy. listen to what they say here. >> because they had such a bad debate that joe was just going to come flying at us. it seems clear that the new strategy is basically call us liars to descend down in a mud pit, and people will be demoralized and then they can win by default. do you get that? he knows he's about to lie in
that debate over and over again just like in the convention speech. he says, i bet they call me liar, see that, they called me a liar. yes, because you're about to lie. they're going to preempt that. here is fox news channel. >> without vitriol without name calling, what is happening to that strategy. >> you have obama foreign policy in total collapse. they're out for political and rhetorical m.o. >> cenk: they're telling the other side, you better not call him a liar. unfortunately, the democrats fall for it all the time. that's why the fox news and the republicans go to the well on that strategy. paul ryan was having an interview, and one reporter was not going for any softball.
not even hard balls. just regular questions about gun violence. the. >> does this country have a gun problem. >> this country has a crime problem. >> not a gun problem. >> no, i mean, if you take a look at the gun laws, i don't think even president obama is proposing oh more gun laws. we have to make sure that we enforce our laws. we have lots of laws that are not properly enforced. we have to make sure that we enforce these laws. >> cenk: what are you asking me about guns for. we have president obama to give up on that issue and i'll redirect it to a crime conversation. what he does next is more interesting. watch. >> the best thing to help prevent violent crime in the inner cities to bring opportunity in the inner cities, take poverty out of inner cities teach discipline and good character.
that's good society. what's when civic and church church groups do. >> and you do that by cutting taxes. the big tax cut. >> those are your words not mine. >> that was kind of strange. putting words in people's mouth. >> i don't know if that's strange. >> really? >> cenk: wait, what was strange about that? he asked you about your own policy. your proposal for all these problems is tax cuts. why don't you answer the question. then he got so annoyed when he did a follow-up question on guns. the most interesting part was the redirect. did you notice that? he asked about gun violence which happened in colorado, and could happen in your hometown, a school, a mall, and he started talking about the inner cities, and how the inner cities need discipline etc. well, it's a republican theme that they've been doing for a long time. i want to bring in professor
tricia rose here from brown university. our clever nickname for professor rose is the professor. professor rose, it seems like this is something we've seen before. let me show you a rick santorum clip b-12, and let's watch this. >> i do not want to make people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money. i want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money and provide for themselves and their families. >> cenk: there are a lot of code words within the republican party, and now when you ask about guns, they don't answer guns. they say black people need discipline. >> yeah, you call me the professor because i am the professor. that's very similar to what paul ryan is going to do. i'm going to call him a liar because he is going to lie. there is no question that there is a total narrative shifting going on, and you know, basically the dog whistle we've been talking about for months
now. what is happening here is that i think paul ryan felt very uncomfortable because he was caught in having to think about what it means when you have very not strong but weak gun laws, and importantly serious issues with violence in society as a whole. the trayvon martin incident in addition to the aurora, colorado, incident make it clear unregulated limited regulation with access to high repetition automatic weaponry is totally unnecessary for hunting and allows a small number of unstable people to have a profoundly negative impact. but what they're doing is racializing and criminalizing black people for being responsible for what is a societal problem. that's been an ongoing strategy that works unfortunately terribly well. we have to start figuring that out. why is that so effective in this so-called post-racial world we live in.
>> cenk: he's in michigan. michigan has huge violence issues. the gun problems are all over the country, not just cities or ruralrural areas anywhere else. and detroit, cops are get together point where they throw their hands up and saying don't come into detroit because it's so dangerous. is the proper thing to focus on the gun laws or something else? >> listen, you cannot have begun-related crime without access to a lot of guns. 70 or 80 years ago in cities in urban america when african-americans were migrating you had no gun crime because access to guns were rare. you had very little violence in all communities because access to guns was largely rare and it was not part of a lobbyist group to encourage people to arm themselves for identity purposes not for safety purposes. so there is no question that
there is manipulation. detroit is in an enormous crisis. detroit's crisis has something to do with race and race as racism but nothing to do with cultural issues. what it has to do with the december imagination of all the various institutions that ryan tried to mention. not just churches, which can't do everything alone but schools and jobs. not just jobs but creating a social fabric. you cannot do that if you're destroying criminalizing and taking families apart and giving parents very little opportunity. so i mean, it's absolutely a much bigger crisis than they're willing to address. they're always focusing on behavior over social structure. so some how you can behave your way into a safe, fair, economically safe neighborhood. >> cenk: professor tricia rose. thank you. when we come back, very
unprecedented event strikes against walmart. that's interesting. why are they striking, and what is walmart doing in response? >> the protesters are with a group called "making change at walmart." they came on buses from dallas, miami, washington and san francisco. >> cenk: when you see the disparity between what the walmart owners have and what the rest of the country has, it is stunning. especially when they don't give their workers the benefits that they need. now, we're also going to talk about a guy who says, you know what i'll fire all my workers if obama is re-elected. get a load of this guy. >> he never thought up to big the biggest house in america. it just kind of happened. >> it's bigger than the white house. >> full size baseball field. (vo) what is said here could decide the election. current tv presents coverage of the vice presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> was this the game changer? is this going to change the
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of versailles, presumably talking about his wife. let's take a look at that. >> i'm the founder and ceo of the largest time share company in the world. >> he never south out to build the largest house in america. it just kind of happened. >> it's larger than the white house. >> 90,000 square feet. >> oh, my god. >> no, that's not my room. that's my closet. >> no way. >> nothing is normal about this life. >> cenk: no, that's so lovely. tax the rich, tax the rich. look you're allowed to be rich. of course you want to build the largest house. somebody has got to have the largest house. that is not the issue. the issue is this guy then turns around and says this. if any new taxes are levied on me or my company as our current president plans i will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company. that is an obvious threat to his employees you better vote for romney or i'm going to fire you.
it appears do you have another choice. perhaps you could reduce the size of your house. but oh no, no, no, you better not tax me another cent otherwise i'll fire all my workers. which would be a great brilliant business strategy. how would you run a company without workers. then your lazy ass would have to get up off the throne and do some work. in florida in 2000 he did this trick which he admits might have been illegal where he asked all of his workers, 8,000 workers in florida, hey, are you for the republicans or democrats. if they said democrats then they do anything with them. if they said republicans they made them register for vote. possibly illegal but who cares. [ laughing ] it's america. the rich get away with everything. now he's not the only one threatening workers. dorton restaurant, restaurant that i love, i got to be honest with you olive garden, red
lobster, the cheese biscuits, but they've got 2,000 restaurant across the country, 180,000 employees, 75% of them work part time. they say if the affordable care act is put in place we might have to put a lot more workers part time instead of full time, knock them down to 30 hours and not cover the insurance. obama made me do it. obama made me do it. i'm not so sure about that. they're not alone. we go to walmart. you want to talk about taking advantage of your employees and shifting costs onto the american tax payers, nobody does that better than walmart. i'm not going to give you benefits. you need benefits either way otherwise you're not going to die in the streets. we'll get them from the government. that's how walmart gives you prices that are so low. they put the costs on the rest of us. what are they doing? some of the employees are literally striking back. for the first time in 50 years there was a multi-city strike in walmarts across the country. one of the reasons why they were
striking initially because they didn't have ceiling fans in the warehouse they were working in. do you know how hot the warehouse was? 120 degrees. put in ceiling fans for the love of christ. now there is a report in arkansas about some of these strikers. >> protesters figured they had seen every top honcho in the company if they showed up, and they did in mass. the protesters are with a group called "making changes in walmart." they came from dallas, miami san francisco, they're complaining about low wages lack of benefits, safety concerns and lack of opportunities for advancement. >> cenk: so now in cities across the country dallas seattle miami, los angeles washington, d.c. san francisco sacramento laurel, maryland, theythere are strikers. employee ins across the world has come to join them as well.
it's an interesting movement that is taking place one that walmart is not happy about. here is another abc report on this. >> hopefully we can sit down with the person who is in charge and they can negotiate with us, and make everything fair. make everything right you know? because they're wronging us, and they need to make it right. [ protesting ] >> they're the largest private employer. they could be a better employer. walmart is not the worst place to work but there could be so much more. they have so much more potential. >> cenk: by the way, some of the people that were organizing this, one of them took a lunch break and talked to an organizer, they said you stole time from us and you're fired. gee, i wonder what people are complaining about. now strikers are saying, black friday is very important for a retail store. well colby harris, a dallas worker said we will make sure that black friday is memorable
for them because they're considering striking on black friday. that will hurt them where it counts. final report for you guys here from walmart representatives. >> in channel five photographer was there rolling the camera when walmart agreed to meet with the protesters. >> first of all we want to say thank you for being walmart employees, we thank you for the passion that you show for your company and fellow associates. as i said earlier we're more than happy for the hr team meet with you on an individual basis and any concerns that you have about you your store or team manager. >> cenk: now the original strikers did get the ceiling fans and they got shin guards. those were their two demands. by the way the walmart heirs have the same amount of money as 41.5% of this country. but they can't afford to put
ceiling fans in? come on. when we come back mitt romney is not anything like george bush except for the fact the guy is running all these campaign outside groups is the same guy karl rove. we'll talk about that when we come back. >> look at this guy he'll never stop. look at him jumping up and down, ready to hop. he has so much to prove tell me you never saw this man move. >> cenk: that video makes me sick every time and the elbow of the day who is going to get it, and who is going to deliver it. yeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeye (vo) always outspoken, now unleashed. joy behar. >> on my next show, rain pryor talks about having having a go go dancer mom, richard pryor for a dad, and a madame for great grandmother. hello, paging dr. freud.
with george bush. turns out that was not the case. he has organized two groups. this is what he has raised for this election cycle. a gigantic amount of money. when you got that kind of money you've got power. what have they spent already? we've got crossroads at $44 million in total expenditures against democrats $42.7 million. gee, i wonder if they're nonpartisan? because they're spending nearly the democrats. the crossroads gps there is karl rove, he's back, supposed to be a non-profit and not spending it on politics. not really how it's working out. one guy who knows a lot about rove is carl unger.
he wrote "boss rove: the secret kingdom of power" apparently he's back. >> he's back and bigger than ever. a lot of people wrote him off after 2008, and they thought he was merely with george bush. after the citizens united decision he really went to work and he became king of the super pacs. he has hundreds of millions of dollars to spend he's also master of creating a narrative and he's got his people in the romney camp, four or five of his surrogates are really, really prominent figures in the romney camp. >> cenk: so romney will from time to time say i'm not bush. don't put the bush policies on me but is there any real difference here or the same old tax cuts, more wars in the middle east, the same money guys who control bush, who control romney through the conduit of rove? >> well, you know, rove is not a
policy guy. he's a politics guy. i think what i'm starting to see is a replay of the 2004 campaign. back in 2004 he has won his last two presidential elections his only two. now obama had a very weak performance in the debate, rove could be the guy who makes the difference. you're starting to see that in a strategy that they're calling the jimmy carter strategy, and rove is trying to paint obama as a weak, failed, jimmy carter-like president. you see that narrative going out in ads all over the swing states that are sponsored by crossroads crossroads. >> cenk: and doesn't rove make a tremendous amount of money from all this? >> it's hard to know how much he takes home but as you say there are hundreds of millions of dollars being spent and there are vendors in the media business who take home millions
and millions, and it's also a way he has a controlling power. rove, it seems is intoxicated by power. he sees himself as a great historic figure who is trying to usher in a realignment politically of a new permanent republican majority. his hero is a guy nameed mark hanna, and rove sees himself the same thing in this election. >> cenk: one of the things about the 50 c 4 they're not supposed to spend their money on political ads. it seems that they're brazenly spending their money on political ads any way. is there anyone minding the house? is there anything that says this is legal or illegal. >> occasionally there are lawsuit, but the problem against
crossroads gps but it takes so long to prosecute by then the election is going to be over. so it's really hard to keep them from getting away from this. one of the things you see the language is butchered rove refers to these as social welfare organizations, which is kind of silly. he has compared himself to the naacp in the civil rights era in which there were secret donations were allowed. but of course rove is not martin luther king jr. >> cenk: really? yeah to say the least. >> people were fascinated like king was fighting for equal rights and rove and billionaires are fighting for tax breaks. not quite the same. >> cenk: it doesn't matter if you break the laws as the bush administration did because president obama looks forward he doesn't look backwards. he's going let you get away with
anything anyway, he's encouraged by that, if you ask me. carl unger, thank you for "boss rove"." >> thank for having me, cenk. >> cenk: someone is not taking what the republicans are dishing out. the family of a navy seal who was actually killed in libya strikes back. >> one was a former navy seal, and glen doherty and you can imagine how shocked i was to learn that he was one of the two navy--former navy seals killed in bengahzi. >> cenk: wait until you see how shocked he is when his mom said, cut it out. i don't want you to talk about him any more. and then mark hamill. look at this. awesome. the force is with us when we (vo) what is said here could decide the election. current tv presents coverage of the vice presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> was this the game changer?
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roll," and he's in the studio. >> i'm in the studio. that was naive to think that i tweet in my den and send it out in the twitter world my daughter got me on innoculous tweets but after that debate i was insane and outraged that there were no fact checkers. i debated in high school. they gave you a numerical score on style substance and if you said things that were not true, you were penalized. there was an actual numerical score. it's too bad that they don't apply the same standards to presidential debaters. >> cenk: i'm amused that your daughter is your handler. >> no, this is a small film, and
it needs all the attention it can get. and i can see that media is the way to go if you can't get on the traditional talk shows. >> cenk: have you had any blow back after the tweet from conservatives. >> oh wallet me tell you something. when you look at those comments from like news busters oh, but you know, i did seven shows on broadway i faced the toughest critics in new york, i'm not going to get upset. i understand that it's a divided country and people get upset. it's 50/50 i suppose, but i'm just really surprised at people that have a passion for mitt romney because he's taken every single position there is and debating him was like a monty python sketch. you want to cut taxes no, i don't. he said, pre-existing conditions. i cover that in my healthcare.
>> cenk: which is just not true. >> of course it's not true. i'm just worried about people who are tuning in late and don't like to watch programs like yours and reading newspapers and what we call low-information voters. i would cast this guy as the president in a heartbeat. he's got the hair. he has the stature. the wardrobe. what really bothers me if you and i had wrestled student to the ground and given him a forced haircut kicking and screaming and crying, would you remember that? i know i would. and everybody involved including that final, the fellow, the victim has since decreased. they confirmed that not only was it something that he felt badly for doing to this kid but the guy confirmed that it traumatized him for the rest of his life. every single person involved in that event remembers that except mitt romney. >> cenk: would you remember it?
of course! unbelievable. let's have fun with "star wars." i'm going to name you a politician, and you tell me which character in "star wars" it would be. dick cheney. >> of course, it's not fair to compare dick cheney to darth vader. vader was redeemed. he saw the evil of his ways and redeemed himself. so far that hasn't happened with the former vice president. >> cenk: all right, that was fairly easy. we thought he was vader as well. so we had that ready to go. now i'm going to give a tough one. joe biden. >> oh, joe biden probably uncle owen. >> cenk: i don't remember uncle owen. >> who was my surrogate father. supportive, a little bit surly. >> cenk: that's funny we went with chewbacca because he's enthusiastic passionate, loyal sidekick.
>> everybody loves a wookie. i'm not talking to people with news busters but everybody loves joe biden. >> cenk: how about obama. >> he's very wise. he has got this sort of probably across between obi wan and yoda. i so revere him. i'll go with obi wan. >> i respect him as well, so we decided he was luke skywalker. >> oh my gosh. >> cenk: the guy who was going to heal the planet. >> that's right. which is mocked by the right. what is so terrible. >> cenk: it would be great if we healed the planet. it would be terrific. mark hamill. thank you so much. we appreciate it. and the elbow of the day. oh, eliot spitzer. >> eliot: you almost forgot about it. cenk, i'm not going to let you forget that again. your you're going to be sitting
next to me tomorrow night. you better be nice to me. we have governor granholm coming up about what it's like to prepare joe biden for debate. and then p.j. crowley one the great voices of the state department explaining what we now know, what we don't know and what we should know about what happened in bengahzi. >> cenk: and we'll host "the young turks" together on friday. >> eliot: i look forward to it. >> cenk: thank you eliot. when we come back, the elbow of the day. or the light saver of the day. home of the brave. ♪ ♪ it's where fear goes unwelcomed... ♪ ♪ and certain men... find a way to rise above. this is the land of giants. guts.